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Black Roses: Rose Parade Boycott by NOM Supporter Karen Grube Backfires.

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Karen L. Grube of San Diego is no stranger to this blog (she tried removing NOManiacs a year or so ago). When she learned that the 2014 Tournament of Roses Parade was to feature a gay male couple marrying (because it’s legal in California) on top of a parade float (because that’s super awesome and straight couples have married there in years past), she immediately started a boycott. Grube got some initial local media attention for her Boycott the 2014 Rose Parade page. However, her rationale for the boycott was quite flawed. Choosing to not use the religious route, she claimed Prop 8 was still in effect. Prop 8 was halted in late June 2013 by the Supreme Court and marriages have been taking place since then. Call it intense denial, Grube was reminded even by news media that Prop 8 was no longer in effect.

Here is the 10News Story.

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People began to point out how ridiculous her claims were, so she resorted to another one.

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Grube by now, frustrated, turned to her Boycott the 2014 Rose Parade Facebook page. She asked people to go onto the Rose Parade Facebook page, news sites, including the LA Times, featuring the boycott story to flood it with comments supporting the boycott. Clearly, she wasn’t the only one that was frustrated.

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Disgraced Pasadena pastor Wayne Cooper jumped in. As you may remember, Cooper was exposed over the years for posting disgusting, graphic hate speech claiming that “gay men eat feces.” Great company you keep there, Grube.

Some even suggested spamming and tampering with the Rose Parade Facebook page.

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As Grube turned her attention to external websites and news stories, her boycott page was receiving new likes at a steady rate.

However, hate speech was also being posted on Grube’s Boycott page.

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The marriage float, sponsored but the AIDS Healthcare Foundation, was to point out that research has shown that the sanctity of marriage was one way of preventing HIV and other sexually-transmitted diseases.

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Grube, who presses the buttons for the Boycott Page, gave this particular hateful comment a LIKE. When pointed out on Twitter, she even defended it.

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There was one post on the Boycott page that received a lot of attention.
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This was in reference to “Duck Dynasty” star Phil Robertson who known as a duck hunter, loves his guns and 15-year-old women are ripe for marriage (no, we are not making this up). Tracy Potter suggested murdering the gay couple.

After exposing this comment and Grube’s inaction to remove it, she claimed that she also received threats. All of a sudden she was now the victim. Easy way out.

The 2014 Rose Parade was a huge success and the marriage took place. News outlets later reported it was one of the highest rated parade broadcasts. So much for the boycott. Actually, the “boycott” and news coverage of it created new fans who invited the parade into their homes. Some even attended in person specifically to see the marriage.

Grube had failed. Hard. JoeMyGod even pointed out that Grube had proven not only to be a homophobe with too much spare time on her hands but also a racist individual.

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A simple lesson for NOM supporters.

Dear Karen, Jennifer and Gordon,

Excuse me for noticing the extreme amount of butthurt you seem to be experiencing over our recent blog posts that mention yourselves. We found it truly stunning that you are happy to accuse us of bullying for publicising your bullying. As highlighted here;

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Can we just clarify something in extreme detail, seeing as you don’t seem to comprehend the purpose of this blog?

Our mission statement is clear. We exist to highlight the anti-gay hatred displayed by the National Organization for Marriage, and that of their followers. Such speech is directly taken from the NOM Facebook page, which is a public social networking site. Any comments made therein are henceforth public.

Please don’t act so offended as if we’ve done something wrong. We haven’t. We are simply bringing to further public attention your obvious dislike and denigration of the LGBT community. You have chosen to share your personal anti-gay, homophobic hate speech with approximately 27,000 plus people on the NOM Facebook page. Why you are so aggrieved that we are sharing it with people who don’t share your viewpoint?

As far as we can tell, you were hoping to say such hateful things about homosexuals in a private capacity. You are obviously concerned about your homophobic comments being noticed by friends and family who may be gay. To that, we say the following.

Tough shit. You chose to share such personal feelings in a public forum. You knew full well the meaning and implications of your words. That is your prerogative. If you don’t want people you know to see your hidden personal feelings about them, then might we suggest you don’t actually make themDitto for liking posts. If you like hate speech, you obviously agree with the content.

Feel free to report us. We find the hypocrisy of you loudly trumpeting free speech when posting homophobic messages on Facebook while demanding everyone report us for passing on said ‘free speech’ truly hilarious. It also highlights your obvious cowardice and unwillingness to stand by what you said. In whining in such an obvious manner, you further undermine your own cause.

You got caught. Get over it. Stop posting hate-speech or learn to live with the consequences. Just so you know, we haven’t been asked to remove anything by WordPress. They obviously disagree with you.

You’re dismissed.

NOM lies yet again. And appear to be shocked when requested to be ‘tolerant’. And their followers publish hate-speech and anus-fixations. Again.

We all know that Maggie Gallagher and Brian Brown are not only unaware of their own scathing personal hypocrisies but also very economical with the truth. This is how they keep their band of followers paralysed with fear in a clever, if not very moral, ploy to solicit money to support their six-figure salaries, which are many multiples of what donors actually earn.

But we’re not here to point out their profligate, iniquitous and shameless actions. WhatWe areSorry. We ARE here to point out their profligate, iniquitous and shameless actions. NOM has been casting their – in the case of Maggie Gallagher – who should, if she followed her own advice about marriage be called Maggie Srivastava – beady eyes across the Atlantic to events happening in France, where new French Premier François Hollande is looking to implement legal – NOT religious – marriage equality that will officially afford gay and lesbian couples the same rights as other married couples. 

How did NOM address this issueSee below;

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Now, this Facebook post just smacks of lies from start to finish, as well as a little ill-disguised homophobia thrown in for good measure. Note that they claim the report says that Catholic schools WILL have to stay SILENT, as well as indicating with a graphic that they believe the Bibble actually holds more sense and reason than all academic subjects, when it has been proven time and again that this is the exact opposite. They also ask what would happen if their followers were banned from exercising their religious liberties. Which aside from being a scenario that would never happen, was basically just an open invitation for their followers to attack the LGBT community. Which they soon did.

The truthCatholic schools  in France were NOT told by the French Government to stay silent. They were advised to stay NEUTRAL on the subject. NOM’s galling bending, nay, breaking of the truth could be seen on the link in the above picture. They were so appallingly lazy and naive that they posted the contradictory information not only on their blog, but also invited their followers to see the original post. See the pictures below;

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Now, scaring the sheeple with the threat of not being allowed to use their personal beliefs to oppress and openly discriminate against homosexual people, unsurprisingly, sent the mass ignorant on the Facebook page into frenzies of homophobia and anus-fixations. Which we all know Brian and Maggie intended. If you have to resort to lying to scare the crap out of your supporters in an effort to rob them of their hard-earned incomes, it says quite a lot about your cause. And it’s status.

Here are just a few of the more severe cases;

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Except the Bible is not the Truth. Especially as there are many dozens of variations of said ‘Truth’. Can’t all be right…

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A marriage is not based on the types of sex it’s participants have, Miguel. The NOM crew have an obsession with gay people’s sex lives that borders on the extremely perverse.

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Miguel’s anal sex obsession manifesting itself further. Wonder if he thinks the same thing about the mouth. Which would probably explain his obsession with other people’s sex lives. And Karen seems to think that forcibly inserting something into a man is the solution. Even though she spends half her life campaigning against such practices…

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And when was the last time we used our own personal beliefs to harangue, abuse, insult, denigrate, demean, belittle, asperse, calumniate and malign others, John? I don;t think you know the true meaning of hatred, and by the way, your ignorance is showing…

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Now, this profile was only created on 03 January, and we suspect it is a troll or a fake designed solely to post inflammatory speeches on the NOM Facebook page. He made further posts that were on the borderline of being genuine and believable. We will continue to monitor him…

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A visit to the NOM page isn’t complete without inane witterings from the resident anus-fixated Clarice Warren. Here he proselytises that it must be the straight parents teaching their children to have gay sex. Yes, he really, really is that barking mad…

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There has never been a registered left-handed birth either, Clarence. Yet both gay and left-handed people exist. This obvious attempt at disparaging the genetic argument falls flat on it’s face. Again. This argument will need serious facial reconstruction if it keeps doing that. Ditto the whole homosexuality/mental illness argument. You have to admire his stubbornness…

So ends another sordid, ignoble and grubby chapter of the Hate Group that is NOM and their hateful followers. Sorry if we put you off your dinner. Hatred and lies do that to people. It’s just a pity that the shameless and greedy ‘Christians’ who run this organised maelstrom of gay-bashing don’t realise how their actions affect others too.

Brightest Blessings x

NOM responds to this blog’s claim they rarely focus on anything but SSM. Their followers display ignorance of NOM’s purpose of existence. Then talk about SSM

Would it be egotistical to think that in response to this blog, NOM posted a link in rebuttal, using a claim – surprisingly recent as well given their last dishonest attempt – by referencing a post by one Ryan Anderson, in which he claims that Conservatives don’t exclusively focus on SSM. As you can see from their FB page, it looks as though they are making the claim about their own page.

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As anyone who has ever spent time on NOM’s Facebook wall will know that this claim is nothing but utter tosh. Until we highlighted it, 95 per cent or more of their posts discussed nothing other than SSM. And far be it from them to actually use their OWN words to address the claims we raised – no, they had to borrow someone else’s, pass them off as their own, and still fail to acknowledge their problem.

You also need to bear in mind that NOM was set up to combat the legal recognition of SSM. This fact is still up on their ‘About’ section. See below;

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NOM’s admission that they are attempting to legally class homosexuals as second-class citizen – and the reason why they are close to being labelled as an official hate group.

When someone highlighted the above to a gentleman named Jared Olar, he appeared very reluctant to acknowledge this statement, despite it being himself who brought up the subject!! The screencap below highlights his stubbornness to accept this fact;

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Please also notice Jared’s admission that he doesn’t consider homosexual people or couples to have gender. And that he appears to think that legally keeping them as second-class citizens is justified…

That said, it didn’t stop their followers chiming in with the same old tired lines;

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Never gets old, does it? Neither does maths that not even Stephen Hawking could logically explain. If anyone has an answer to the strange, and quite frankly baffling, claim that Jerry Hamilton makes,  please let us know…

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Lunatic-level mathematics aside, it wouldn’t be a NOM thread without at least one person flagrantly denouncing and verbally abusing homosexual people. Same shit, different day;

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And because we believe in the fairness of labeling ALL people who associate themselves with a homophobic post, here are the three who, at time of posting, had ‘liked’ this vile rant.

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Note that Al had to like his own post to give the appearance more people agreed with him. Trust me, Al, it failed.

WARNING – The content of the following post may shock you in much the same way it shocked me. I recommend you swallow all liquids – for your laptop’s safety – before continuing.

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I could honestly not believe my eyes, but, yes, this is the same Clarence Warren who has (dis)graced these pages so often before…

ATTENTION BRIAN BROWN AND MAGGIE GALLAGHER – If one of your most notorious, obnoxious, obstinate homophobic posters is actually challenging the very nature of your page, then you are doing something very wrong indeed. He has highlighted, much like we have, that NOM appears to be doing nothing for marriage other than trying to deny it to a section of society based on little more than Bible rhetoric, which is a clear violation of the Constitution.

What surprised us most of all was Clarence’s frank admission that if DOMA is ruled unconstitutional then NOM, and all it stands for, will become obsolete – and we here at NOManiacs hope that with that ruling it will also be finally classed as an official hate group – and this may be why NOM are shifting their focus away from anti-gay sentiments. Stupid as they often are in getting caught out with their photoshopping, lies and manipulation, the one thing they are clever about is getting money out of people. They obviously realise that a staunch anti-gay stance is not in keeping with public opinion, and if they keep on this track then their incomes may dramatically decrease.

Editors note; Clarence, though it begrudges this author to say so, you have actually made a very valid point that I’m sure not only the readers of this post will muse upon but also Maggie and Brian. Whether they recognise the damage they have been doing is, however, another matter.

 

Thank you for reading x